Comments on: Arsenal 2-3 Wigan: Two schools of thought for stunning defeat

By: Jay Bones

Jay Bones — Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:23:50 +0000

Arsene Wenger has been a good manager but terrible coach. His good on the financial side but not for the fans. It is time for Arsenal to move on if we want to win a trophy. The coach has taken the fans for granted and he seems to think for as long as he is making money for the club it doesn’t matter. We need new ideas now. Wenger must go today not tomorrow.

By: JunkEsko

JunkEsko — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 13:59:09 +0000

When Wenger removed Rosicky and Walcott he removed any offensive threat Arsenal had allowing Wigan to steamroll an already suspect and decimated defense. Wenger’s arrogance hurt the team and the keeper Fabianski. Very poor coaching move. . .

By: BrenGunner

BrenGunner — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:36:52 +0000

everybody want arsenal to win,i just think its unfair to react the way most supporters well ..react, as a manager u got a squad ,some players with high moral,some with low moral,sometimes when buying new players,the younger guys loose moral,wenger gave those a chance,they failed him

By: BrenGunner

BrenGunner — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:30:58 +0000

The boys tried….wenger gave some chances ..they let him down,he’s a good manager,.I’ll keep supporting arsenal and him

By: iloveverminator

iloveverminator — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 08:37:55 +0000

RVP came in as a substitute for the last few seconds…is it a joke.
When AW found that we were not holding the ball well in the top two thirds, why didn’t he bring in RVP? His experience would have counted and i am sure he would have been able to marshall the other players. When Arsenal fails to look penetrative, it is a sign that we are swaying away from the game…
I still can’t believe this has happened. I hope AW gives us enough moments of joy next season. This year we will do good to hold on to the third spot.
New faces that I would like to see in the next season are:
GK: Joe Hart/ Buffon
Defender : Lucio/Hangeland
Midfield : Filippe Melo
Centreforward: Robben, Torres, Dzeko

By: Habith Hussin

Habith Hussin — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 05:09:38 +0000

Bring new faces for the next season or just waste the time of fans.

By: RGJ

RGJ — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 03:36:00 +0000

Iran 1998. Australia 2-0 up against Iran and ten minutes away from the World Cup. I was at the MCG that night and Sunday night watching the Wigan game on Fox was ten times worse! For all you season ticket holders saying you aren’t going to renew your ticket well I swore at my kids and said I was cutting the Foxtel subscription. Take that Rupert!

But in the cold light of day I know I won’t and I’ll be there in August eagerly looking forward to the new season hoping against hope that we will win something.

Just as long as Almunia, Fabianski, Walcott, Eduardo, Vela and Silvestre are gone gone gone.

Happy to give Wenger another season – when were are on form, fully fit and fired up there is no other team I would rather watch. Looking forward to seeing Chamakh, van Persie and Arshavin up front, Fabregas, Song and Diaby in mid. I reckon we are a new goalkeeper and a couple of defenders away from being serious challengers again.

Read today that Clichy might be off to Barca for 10 million quid. Take the money and give Gibbs a proper run. And spend 40 million on Lloris/Buffon/Hart and two proper defenders.

By: dave m

dave m — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 02:18:56 +0000

@ darragh, well said.

I take it you saw this?

http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/wenger-we-have-money-to-overtake-chelsea

By: darragh

darragh — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 01:02:02 +0000

Andy, while generally I mostly agree with you on most things, as you know, but in this case, I don’t think I can completely swallow the argument that ‘we lacked senior players’.

Sure we had injuries, some more than other clubs (as it always seems to be) – thats too easy to argue in this case.

The reality was – we were still 2 goals up with ten minutes to go with a team that had injuries, lacked influential players, against a team fighting a relegation battle. And we somehow lost it. I think the root cause was complacency rather than inexperience (look a Eastmond who had a relatively good game compared to his more ‘senior’ colleagues).

It seemed the midfield completely switched off – Diaby in particular. The problems with the Arsenal midfield without Song and Fabregas is seeming lack of willingness to get in the faces of the opposition midfield and attempt to regain possession once lost – much like Barca seem to do.

Furthermore, we had a senior player albeit on the bench – RVP – who was introduced far too late. Had he brought on earlier, possibly after the first goal, perhaps he could have diverted Wigan’s attention away from their consistent go-forward policy after the first goal.

I love Wenger, and love what he has done for the club, but now, more than ever before, I question some of his tactical nuance – particularly when we require to shut a game down. On more than one occasion he has seemed to make substitutions too late. He has been _reactive_ rather than _proactive_.

Sure I’m gutted but I feel that something is missing somewhere in the club – I think they need to have a serious look at the squad and clear out the deadwood, surround the younger players with some more experienced heads.

By: Andrew Weber

Andrew Weber — Tue, 20 Apr 2010 00:15:43 +0000

It seems my decision to let everyone vent yesterday has paid off because today’s discussion has been absolutely superb.

Thank-you to everyone who has commented: the intelligent, measured conversation is so refreshing compared to a lot of the wild complaining going on around the place.