Comments on: The best players don’t make the best team http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/ Arsenal Blog | Arsenal News Tue, 22 May 2012 14:51:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: afham http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10574 afham Fri, 23 Nov 2007 10:17:36 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10574 "the appropriate tactical helps the team win the title" “the appropriate tactical helps the team win the title”

]]> By: Aid http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10565 Aid Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:02:11 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10565 You know the difference between the Euro player and the African/south American player. the average Euro palyer learnt in a soccer academy, the average from this other parts learnt on the streets first. So the foriegn player learnt the skills, developed his talent before really understanding the tactical nous behind playing football. maybe this formulae works. Thing is i believe Africas' football is held back because of their other issues, if they ever break away from their bondage, they will give south america a good run for their money on the world stage. And now we are discussing in England, how to keep this guys out? It makes sense seeing has we won three world cups and two euros before the influx of foriegn players... You know the difference between the Euro player and the African/south American player. the average Euro palyer learnt in a soccer academy, the average from this other parts learnt on the streets first. So the foriegn player learnt the skills, developed his talent before really understanding the tactical nous behind playing football. maybe this formulae works.

Thing is i believe Africas’ football is held back because of their other issues, if they ever break away from their bondage, they will give south america a good run for their money on the world stage. And now we are discussing in England, how to keep this guys out? It makes sense seeing has we won three world cups and two euros before the influx of foriegn players…

]]> By: Spanish Fry http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10564 Spanish Fry Fri, 23 Nov 2007 09:00:57 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10564 It was long, but very insightful. Great, balanced comments on a difficult issue. As you say, a lot of English supporters cry out for this and that and then contradict it with completely different solutions. I've already said what I think but your comments are the icing on the cake. It was long, but very insightful. Great, balanced comments on a difficult issue. As you say, a lot of English supporters cry out for this and that and then contradict it with completely different solutions. I’ve already said what I think but your comments are the icing on the cake.

]]> By: Aid http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10561 Aid Fri, 23 Nov 2007 08:49:13 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10561 Its amazing the way we think in England. We criticise Mac for giving carson his debut in such an important match and then suggest people like shearer for manager. We scream drop beckam and then go on to criticise swp selection - who should it have been then. We scream no foriegn players but criticise Mac selection - who else is English and qualifies- Big Sam? just dont get. As it occured to anybody that the problem might not be big egos but being overwhelmed by the expectations. Why do we seem to lose when penalties come up, even when we had seaman who was great at saving penalties? What we need is 1. Someone with a strong will to do things his way, not the way the press suggest. Someone who does not give a damn about opinions beyond that of his crew. there are quite a number out there. I truly believe Mac dropped Beckam initially not cos of davids' form but popular demand. The truth is Beckam seems to be the only one of this generation that is not overwhelmed by playing for england. He is the leader the team lacks. His playing might not be top like it used to be but Nothing is has important has leadership in a team. for a glaring eg try Arse last season and this. 2. Someone who knows english football but is not fascinated by it. Someone who does not mistake England and its achievements with Brazils. WHo does not think we've won the competition even before we play the qiualifies. Who understands hardwork and knows it is needed cos the team is not the best in the world as the media would have you believe. 3, a manager who's hungry for success at international level. He should be someone who can do it, believes he can do it and believes its not a function of the players but how he uses them. 4. He should be able to take the focus of the players and cope with the limelight, maybe even arrogant. I believe the players are overwhelmed, they need a manager able to deflect that focus from them and keep them from the noise. Very few fit this bill, i wont even pick capello. Maybe mourinho, dont like him but his arrogance, hunger, strong will might just be the trick. Maybe big phil, he won me over when he said no to the president of Brazil. there are others out there. Whatever they do, the FA should not expect this guys to submit Cvs and come say yes sir to them. They should not go for the conventional guy but simply one to shake things up. jeez this is long! Its amazing the way we think in England. We criticise Mac for giving carson his debut in such an important match and then suggest people like shearer for manager. We scream drop beckam and then go on to criticise swp selection – who should it have been then. We scream no foriegn players but criticise Mac selection – who else is English and qualifies- Big Sam? just dont get.

As it occured to anybody that the problem might not be big egos but being overwhelmed by the expectations. Why do we seem to lose when penalties come up, even when we had seaman who was great at saving penalties?

What we need is 1. Someone with a strong will to do things his way, not the way the press suggest. Someone who does not give a damn about opinions beyond that of his crew. there are quite a number out there. I truly believe Mac dropped Beckam initially not cos of davids’ form but popular demand. The truth is Beckam seems to be the only one of this generation that is not overwhelmed by playing for england. He is the leader the team lacks. His playing might not be top like it used to be but Nothing is has important has leadership in a team. for a glaring eg try Arse last season and this.

2. Someone who knows english football but is not fascinated by it. Someone who does not mistake England and its achievements with Brazils. WHo does not think we’ve won the competition even before we play the qiualifies. Who understands hardwork and knows it is needed cos the team is not the best in the world as the media would have you believe.

3, a manager who’s hungry for success at international level. He should be someone who can do it, believes he can do it and believes its not a function of the players but how he uses them.

4. He should be able to take the focus of the players and cope with the limelight, maybe even arrogant. I believe the players are overwhelmed, they need a manager able to deflect that focus from them and keep them from the noise.

Very few fit this bill, i wont even pick capello. Maybe mourinho, dont like him but his arrogance, hunger, strong will might just be the trick. Maybe big phil, he won me over when he said no to the president of Brazil. there are others out there. Whatever they do, the FA should not expect this guys to submit Cvs and come say yes sir to them. They should not go for the conventional guy but simply one to shake things up.
jeez this is long!

]]> By: Arsenal FC Blog » Blog Archive » Unfamiliar Arsenal should make light work of Wigan http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10543 Arsenal FC Blog » Blog Archive » Unfamiliar Arsenal should make light work of Wigan Fri, 23 Nov 2007 05:38:23 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10543 [...] back to Arsenal news after yesterday’s post on the English national team, but in all honesty things don’t read too well for the weekend [...] [...] back to Arsenal news after yesterday’s post on the English national team, but in all honesty things don’t read too well for the weekend [...]

]]> By: Spanish Fry http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10507 Spanish Fry Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:55:17 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10507 Right on. What has Bent done this season so far? Not much indeed. I'm not sure Walcott was the answer but Agbonlahor should definitely have been part of the squad. Anyway, we'll have to move on to Arsenal sooner or later. Wigan to come, hey. Any predictions? Right on. What has Bent done this season so far? Not much indeed. I’m not sure Walcott was the answer but Agbonlahor should definitely have been part of the squad. Anyway, we’ll have to move on to Arsenal sooner or later. Wigan to come, hey. Any predictions?

]]> By: Jay http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10504 Jay Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:23:39 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10504 Also a lot of managers pick big names insyead of big talent. They will pick a more famous person rather than a person who is on form. I mean McClaren picked Bent over Walcott and Agbonlahor. Also a lot of managers pick big names insyead of big talent. They will pick a more famous person rather than a person who is on form. I mean McClaren picked Bent over Walcott and Agbonlahor.

]]> By: Spanish Fry http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10503 Spanish Fry Thu, 22 Nov 2007 22:09:30 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10503 It's a possibility. As you've said, it needs to start at that bottom and at the moment the process seems to be all wrong. I think it's important to maintain traditional values - and in England's case that means hard-working, physical players - but in this day and age teams need to know how to play technically or they will get nowhere. As for the manager issue, charisma and respect is everything to control big egos and a bigger ego up top is what is required. As I've said, someone like Mourinho, Capello or Hiddink commands respect and that is what England need. It’s a possibility. As you’ve said, it needs to start at that bottom and at the moment the process seems to be all wrong. I think it’s important to maintain traditional values – and in England’s case that means hard-working, physical players – but in this day and age teams need to know how to play technically or they will get nowhere. As for the manager issue, charisma and respect is everything to control big egos and a bigger ego up top is what is required. As I’ve said, someone like Mourinho, Capello or Hiddink commands respect and that is what England need.

]]> By: le Gunner http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10495 le Gunner Thu, 22 Nov 2007 18:47:49 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10495 To get to play a good passing football takes years of practice and it has to start at very young age that is why Wenger gets them young and mould them into that style. England players are not kids and they are set in their ways so it is impossible for them to all of sudden change their style of play instead they should've played to their strength which is powerful direct and fast and they can overwhelm teams with that style unfortunately they didn't do that against Croatia and the reason is that the manager keeps changing formation and no one knows why .on top of that the England style is physically demanding so needs a lot of motivation while a good slick football does not rely on physical power you look at Fabregas he is a little guy but his passing is deadly. For now England should stick to what they do best. I enjoyed watching England when they really come at you with fearsome power and speed a typical example of that is Wayne Rooney. The up and coming generation maybe they can play slick football. To get to play a good passing football takes years of practice and it has to start at very young age that is why Wenger gets them young and mould them into that style. England players are not kids and they are set in their ways so it is impossible for them to all of sudden change their style of play instead they should’ve played to their strength which is powerful direct and fast and they can overwhelm teams with that style unfortunately they didn’t do that against Croatia and the reason is that the manager keeps changing formation and no one knows why .on top of that the England style is physically demanding so needs a lot of motivation while a good slick football does not rely on physical power you look at Fabregas he is a little guy but his passing is deadly. For now England should stick to what they do best. I enjoyed watching England when they really come at you with fearsome power and speed a typical example of that is Wayne Rooney. The up and coming generation maybe they can play slick football.

]]> By: Mabel http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-dont-make-the-best-team/#comment-10494 Mabel Thu, 22 Nov 2007 17:53:38 +0000 http://arsenalfcblog.com/the-best-players-do-not-make-the-best-team/#comment-10494 The problem with English football is that it is antiquated. Hoof the ball up the pitch; head it down; get a specialist goal scorer to slam it in the back of the net. There's no emphasis on basic technical skills and few players are technically gifted. The problem with English football is that it is antiquated. Hoof the ball up the pitch; head it down; get a specialist goal scorer to slam it in the back of the net.

There’s no emphasis on basic technical skills and few players are technically gifted.

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